How conservationists can create lasting impact by empowering communities, transforming environmental education, and building inclusive conservation movements, with our guest Cindy-Lee Cloete. Conservation isn’t just about protecting wildlife. It’s about people too. The most successful conservation projects don’t happen in isolation – they happen when communities are empowered to care for the places they call home. Today’s guest is Cindy-Lee Cloete, CEO of WESSA – the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa. Growing up in